Sagebrush
3 posts
Dec 04, 2009
10:51 AM
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I spend a considerable amount of time on the phone answering questions from beginner shooters in the Black Powder Cartridge Rifle game and talking to fellow shooters here and there and I find some things quite amusing. That where this topic comes from.
"When to be anal and not so anal" when it comes to loading for the BPCR.
There are so many shooters that blame their poor shooting score on a load component when it is just that, poor shooting.
Lets get this topic going. It doens't have to be related to BPCR but lets keep it in the shooting arena.
Hang On! This could be real good!
"Just Shoot...Exercise Your Rights!"
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Don McDowell
3 posts
Dec 07, 2009
11:46 AM
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10roger4 on the lousy shooting part.
The older I get the worse I am about getting my "buckfever" calmed down on the firing line.
I have loads that can drive 5 rounds thru the same hole at 270 yds and beyond, but by the time you add up travel factor, sleeping in strange beds and just the mere excitement of being at a shoot, my scores generally keep alot of folks from placing last.
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charles mulhair
2 posts
Dec 08, 2009
6:28 PM
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I have fooled around with old, used guns all my life and have always wondered why my shooting was always so poor. I have burned up enough powder and slung enough lead on my range out on the ranch that I think that part of Knox county might slide off into the Missouri River. I went out to the Q with an old '79 trapdoor and shot 613 out of 629. Then I went to Alliance and bought a Browning BPCR from Kurt. This is the first rifle with a new barrel that I have ever owned and I am just staggered at how well I can shoot now!!! I had to wait till I was 72 to learn about good barrels. Boys, here's a warning: look out for me at the Q next year.
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Sagebrush
4 posts
Dec 08, 2009
7:09 PM
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Well Charlie,
It is so good to here from you. A carpenter is only as good as his tools, but that carpenter can always learn to use them better. I was sure glad you picked up that hiwall, you can't go wrong with that tool.
I have seen shooters constantly trying to tweek there load here and there when they should be working on their shooting practices. A shooter can make so many mistakes while on the firing line and not even know it. I have stood behind seasoned shooters before when they are struggling that day and see mistakes they are making and point it out to them and then their day starts to get better. This has happened to me as well. My buddy Jimbo would say "Harlan you're not following thru" and of course I would say bull**t, but still concentrate more and shizam it works.
Shot more!!
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"Just Shoot...Exercise Your Rights!"
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Kurt
2 posts
Dec 08, 2009
8:32 PM
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I'm anal about the Nebraska winds, they make me miss every time I miss LOL.
Hi Charlie.
I'm so glad that rifle is shooting good for you. It was a safe Queen for many years for me.
By the way I aint gona let you get the jump on me at Alliance or the Q I'm working very anual like tweeking a load for the .44-90BN LOL.
Hey Harlan, we need smilies!!
Last Edited on 8-Dec-2009 8:39 PM
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charles mulhair
3 posts
Dec 09, 2009
8:08 PM
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Kurt: Well, I didn't notice you doing very much missing at Alliance. I get a kick out of telling the boys at the coffee shop about me shooting that big .50-90. "Didn't think I could stand up behind 90 grains of black powder" says I. "Well, I managed to get 100 grains in there" says Kurt.
We're making plans for Montana. We'll probably hang around out there most of June.
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Kurt
4 posts
Dec 09, 2009
8:48 PM
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Charlie:
I will be looking forward seeing you and Karol at the Q.
You want me to bring the .40-65 along so your partner can shoot too? maybe that will get my Carol to shoot too LOL.
I been hoping Don's Carol would kinda (man we have a lot of Carol's in our circle) set a spark in her so she would pick one up.
Kurt
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Kurt
5 posts
Dec 09, 2009
8:58 PM
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By the way Charles; that 50 you shot had 110 grains of 2F powder with a 718 grain bullet LOL.
Kurt
Last Edited on 9-Dec-2009 8:59 PM
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charles mulhair
4 posts
Dec 10, 2009
5:42 PM
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Kurt:
Bring 'er along! I have a real problem with that woman. "Don't get me a deer license this year, I'm all done hunting" Fast forward to the first week of the following November and we're out on the ranch looking at the scrapes and rubs all over the place and now she says, "I wish you would have got me a license."
Out on the range, she isn't interested in target practice, but I snuck her S&W 36 along and she shoots up all the shells I loaded the previous winter.
"No, I don't want to shoot a BPCR, (she shoots mine just fine) so don't buy me one." Then I remind her that Carol McDowell shoots one and does OK. If you bring it along, I'll bring another pocketfull of Ben Franklins and maybe we can talk her into it.
Actually, your .50-90 (110) didn't shove me around much more than my highwall, and the accuracy of that piece astounds me. I managed 4 hits out of 5 shots at 500 yds, if you recall.
CM
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Don McDowell
12 posts
Dec 10, 2009
7:07 PM
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My Carol will shoot the Alliance shoots, and Ekalaka, but she doesn't even want to go to the Quigley, let alone shoot there...
I am going to see if I can get her to shooting Ol Buttugly on a regular basis. She shot a little bit with it at Ekalaka but when the match started decided she would stick with the roller.
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Kurt
6 posts
Dec 10, 2009
10:05 PM
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I been sorta hanging on to the .40-65 Browning for Carolyn hoping some day she will say let me shoot that. But I will load up a couple hundred rounds so your better halve can do some shooting.
Kurt
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Kurt
7 posts
Dec 10, 2009
10:12 PM
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Don.
Why don't put a buffer in buttugly for Carol and let her bang away with it?
I would like to do the Ekalaka shoot some time. I enjoy Harlan's shoot so much and the Q that it is time I spread my horizons some more. Have met a lot of fine people at these shoots and some turned into very good friends that I enjoy spending time with.
Kurt
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steve
1 post
Jan 04, 2010
9:17 PM
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gentleman,if i may ask,how about posting your shoot dates and times?I shot smallbore matches many years ago,and could get the bug again.would be a good excuse to pick up a new rifle anyway
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Don McDowell
28 posts
Jan 05, 2010
1:49 PM
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Kurt, for some reason or other I didn't see your post till today. Anyways Carol has shot buttugly, and was on the verge of using it at Ekalaka, but then changed her mind at the last second. Anyway I think you'ld be particularly happy at the Ekalaka shoot, and if you could make the Baker before the Q, I'm pretty sure you'ld get along just great there as well.
Steve keep your eyes on the events tab here the places and dates should start coming up. What part of the country are you from?
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Kurt
28 posts
Jan 05, 2010
3:34 PM
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Don.
I pretty much put running back up to Alaska out of my mind for this coming summer and plan on making a shooting tour this year and getting a chance to work up a load for the two .44-90 bn's so I can give you and Harlan a run for your money at these shoots.
Till my back is healed up good I'm going to have to put the .50/2.5 up on the wall for a while, really going to miss that rifle. Shot it so much that the muzzle blast took off all the bluing off the front of the barrel and the barrel looks like it needs to be re blued from the bare edges shining through from handling and rubbing on the sticks.
Kurt
Last Edited on 5-Jan-2010 3:37 PM
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Don McDowell
29 posts
Jan 05, 2010
8:11 PM
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Kurt I can see why you are anxious about leaving Calamity at home especially after you let me shoot it. But your 44-90 roughrider sure stole my heart....
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buffalocannon
2 posts
Jan 06, 2010
7:09 AM
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Well, I'll tell you Harlan, when I first got a look at that far left bank of targets at Alliance and looked at those three or four wind flags on the range, each of them pointing in a different direction, I thought to myself: " I think I've arrived at BPCR Shooter Hell," but then I gathered myself and realized that I was only in Nebraska. Just kiddin', of course, but a swirling tornado of wind on the range can tend to make one "anal" and long for two or three spotters backing him up. A great shoot, however, and I look forward to my return. Shoots like Alliance are a true test of a BPCR shooter's skills. Perhaps one day, I'll even figure out how to "dope the wind." Not making any excuses, however!
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Kurt
30 posts
Jan 06, 2010
2:30 PM
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That .50 out shoots all of my rifles.
Last fall at Alliance I gave the .44 a go but the PP bullets left a lot to be desired It was a 50% hit at the 1K and 900, so I ended up shooting the match with the .50 again and It shot the only clean score on the 1000 at the last match and I lost 4 shots on the 900 but when I got on it it stayed on.
I just have to put a little more work in the .44 this year and the only way I will get that done is leave the .50 home.
The new .44-90BN rough rider I just got with the 5 degree lead is shooting the PP very good a lot better than the first .44 that you shot but the first .44 shoots the GG better than the PP.
I just ordered a new PP mould from Brooks with a different nose and diameter that will fit throat a little tighter with out using paper to thick. It will be patched .003 over bore diameter.
Kurt
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Don McDowell
31 posts
Jan 06, 2010
3:54 PM
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Well that'll take care of it then. 90#1 is the gg shooter, and 90#2 is the confetti thrower
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rafterj
2 posts
Feb 12, 2010
2:37 PM
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When and where and what date is the Ekalaka shoot?? I assume this to be a buffalo shoot???
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Don McDowell
37 posts
Feb 13, 2010
9:07 PM
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rafterJ the Medicine Rocks shoot at Ekalaka Mt, is held the weekend after laborday. Its a bring a carload of guns and shootem all shoot. Levergun,handgun and 22 on Saturday. Buffalo match on Sunday followed by the 1/2mile buffalo shoot . 10 shots at the1/2 mile buffalo, 3 money place prizes handed out.
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rafterj
3 posts
Feb 15, 2010
5:56 PM
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Thanks Don: that really sounds like a fantastic week-end....we may have to start saving the shekels and talking it up with the buddies!
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Don McDowell
38 posts
Feb 15, 2010
7:14 PM
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The two shoots at Alliance, and this one at Ekalaka are what I consider to be can't miss. Something is going to have to go badbadbad wrong to keep me from anyone of those 3.
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